Comments on: Still A Long Way To Go http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/ Issues & insights Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:22:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: The Indian Economy Blog » Blog Archive » The Long And Winding Road http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-610 The Indian Economy Blog » Blog Archive » The Long And Winding Road Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:45:33 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-610 [...] 005 by Prashant Kothari First it was the Wall Street Journal. Then it was Yale Global , followed by the Economist. And now, it’s Fortune’s turn t [...] […] 005 by Prashant Kothari

First it was the Wall Street Journal. Then it was Yale Global , followed by the Economist. And now, it’s Fortune’s turn t […]

]]> By: Mani Pulimood http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-589 Mani Pulimood Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:57:36 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-589 Current deadlock is over seat-sharing and fee structure Sometimes the government wants a large chunk of the cake. Private Colleges find themselves in an admission muddle. I think this problem will worsen all over India with privitization...do we really know the meaning of the word... http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl2117/stories/20040827002504300.htm Current deadlock is over seat-sharing and fee structure

Sometimes the government wants a large chunk of the cake.

Private Colleges find themselves in an admission muddle. I think this problem will worsen all over India with privitization…do we really know the meaning of the word…

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl2117/stories/20040827002504300.htm

]]> By: Abhi http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-584 Abhi Sun, 30 Oct 2005 04:41:28 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-584 Well, as far as I see, what can be wrong with private primary education? After all, as a contrast between US and India, public education is screwed up (grad level in India, and high school in US), and private (vice versa) is doing good. Of course we have exceptions (IITs etc) but they're too expensive to the country by all standards. As an ex-IITian myself, I can safely say, privatization will in fact HELP the IITs get much better brand value. Well, as far as I see, what can be wrong with private primary education?

After all, as a contrast between US and India, public education is screwed up (grad level in India, and high school in US), and private (vice versa) is doing good.

Of course we have exceptions (IITs etc) but they’re too expensive to the country by all standards. As an ex-IITian myself, I can safely say, privatization will in fact HELP the IITs get much better brand value.

]]> By: Navin http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-566 Navin Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:21:22 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-566 Apologies.....misread your comment. Thanks for pointing out. Cheers Apologies…..misread your comment. Thanks for pointing out.

Cheers

]]> By: Prashant http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-565 Prashant Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:58:47 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-565 My comment was " how about rechanneling government money away from higher education (open it up to private sector) and using that money for primary education? " Who said anything about privatizing primary education? My comment was ” how about rechanneling government money away from higher education (open it up to private sector) and using that money for primary education? ”

Who said anything about privatizing primary education?

]]> By: Navin http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-564 Navin Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:33:44 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-564 Prashant, I agree with you on shaddy state of Indian prim education and the need for change. Also on more investments on that space. I am not too sure on Privatising the same . (we might only see MB schools if we privatise ?) Prashant,

I agree with you on shaddy state of Indian prim education and the need for change. Also on more investments on that space.

I am not too sure on Privatising the same . (we might only see MB schools if we privatise ?)

]]> By: Prashant http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-562 Prashant Fri, 28 Oct 2005 14:42:07 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-562 Navin -- am not sure if I get your logic. Your posts, # 2 and # 9, with the references to Atanu's essay and Guru's comments, respectively, actually <b>bolster</b> my point... ie, about the woeful state of primary education in India, and how the government's expenditure on the IITs/ other higher-ed outfits in India is sub-optimal. Navin — am not sure if I get your logic.

Your posts, # 2 and # 9, with the references to Atanu’s essay and Guru’s comments, respectively, actually bolster my point… ie, about the woeful state of primary education in India, and how the government’s expenditure on the IITs/ other higher-ed outfits in India is sub-optimal.

]]> By: Navin http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-560 Navin Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:28:24 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-560 Nilu, What about Sen ? :-) He also had spoke that Cambridge is dear to his heart ;-) (and mostly lives out of there) Guru Gulab Khatri , <i> "We subsidize IITs REC, AIMS, yet most kids who are accepted there come from a family that can afford it(or they can take a loan, which they can easily payback once they have a professional degree). " </i> Then why is Prashant rooting for privatisation ? All seems to be going well ? Nilu,

What about Sen ? :-) He also had spoke that Cambridge is dear to his heart ;-) (and mostly lives out of there)

Guru Gulab Khatri ,
“We subsidize IITs REC, AIMS, yet most kids who are accepted there come from a family that can afford it(or they can take a loan, which they can easily payback once they have a professional degree). ”

Then why is Prashant rooting for privatisation ? All seems to be going well ?

]]> By: Nilu http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-552 Nilu Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:46:53 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-552 <i>For all its Nobel Prizes and brilliant scholars and professionals</i> In a country of a billion people, I count 2 nobel prizes. OK - Sen makes it 3. Chandra and Naipaul are not Indian by their own admission. In fact I remember an interview in which Chandra was asked "it must be an incredible feeling to be the only second Indian to win a Physics Nobel blah blah " or something like that. He stopped the host and said "Excuse me, am an American". Veru very funny and worth pointing out especially when people seem to think India produces greats. For all its Nobel Prizes and brilliant scholars and professionals

In a country of a billion people, I count 2 nobel prizes. OK - Sen makes it 3. Chandra and Naipaul are not Indian by their own admission. In fact I remember an interview in which Chandra was asked “it must be an incredible feeling to be the only second Indian to win a Physics Nobel blah blah ” or something like that. He stopped the host and said “Excuse me, am an American”.

Veru very funny and worth pointing out especially when people seem to think India produces greats.

]]> By: Guru Gulab Khatri http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-551 Guru Gulab Khatri Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:28:29 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2005/10/27/still-a-long-way-to-go/#comment-551 Continued.... I have another proposal. It requires a lot more discipline. The government sets up an organization called 'vidya sena'. Inorder to graduate from highschool(ie metric/ 12th grade) every one has to go spend 9 months minimum to teach kinder garden-5th grade to a class of 30.(or they can pay Rs2 lakh to pay for teacher salary, and have a family member work for 12 months either as a teacher or in a supervisory role) Only then they will be given their high school diploma and allowed to go to college. To avoid the korea conscript scenario, the goverment should make it difficult for those between 15-20yrs of age to posses a passport. Its going to be tough for a generation but either we spend the capital or use our human capital. Continued….
I have another proposal. It requires a lot more discipline.
The government sets up an organization called ‘vidya sena’.
Inorder to graduate from highschool(ie metric/ 12th grade)
every one has to go spend 9 months minimum to teach kinder garden-5th grade to a class of 30.(or they can pay Rs2 lakh to pay for teacher salary, and have a family member work for 12 months either as a teacher or in a supervisory role)
Only then they will be given their high school diploma and allowed to go to college.

To avoid the korea conscript scenario, the goverment should make it difficult for those between 15-20yrs of age to posses a passport.

Its going to be tough for a generation but either we spend the capital or use our human capital.

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