It was good from lot of young Indians about the system, knowledge. since the tendency of the people is to go where everyone are rushing, that’s why Indian’s get screwed always, we don’t have great leader’s in field of economic’s, human resource and other basic necessary department’s to control and share the knowledge. I totally disagree about that only IITians are millionaire and created a value of India by having NRI tag. just consider yearly nearly 3lakh engineer’s churn out every year, half the college’s owned by politicians and their relatives. No one is bothered about what they are getting and how , only want the institute to be running and money should be kept flowing,as on present day each student spend more than 40K for payment seat. so what he get’s the text book and exams in 90% of the engineering college’s, wherein IIT lot of public private funding comes from the companies as they want their investment in safe returns, that’s total economics. see no one would invest 10crore in a project funding if the company doesn’t get returns. and what’s the amount of student they need to handle is may be total all IIT;s 15000 of four year’s and only final year student doing project and new gadget’s , consider university handling more than 1.6lakh student per year so quality comes at price and what public funding, private company how they can invest for the project’s, that’s make lot of difference, every one are talented in some field, only we need a proper channel’s to make student’s expose to newer technology, there are engineering college’s which are running on just 10 room’s what amount of exposure they can get in technical field. where in IIT’s individual blocks and lab room exist which gives exposure to them and competation is severe between student’s which bring’s best talent.Forget competation college’s aren’t able to give proper direction for their projects.whyn’t IIT handle some college’s where atleast people can get seat, which reduces the friction
in life of student who’s been trying to get seat in IIT. There are lot of factors why student get crunched at the later part after engineering. if he doesn’t get job is not due to bad score, but the amount of confidence he/she has that they can do the job, if they are shortages of manpower whyn’t IIM open more campuses in India why singapore, whyn’t IIT takes charge when they can now, it’s way a messy state already education system is facing in india,see I’m not against IITians but comeon only IIT’s doesn’t make india run right, they are other institute also which offer’s much facility only short being is they face is amount of exposure, if u rub a diamond with diamond what would u get brighter and clear crystal of diamond right , that’s it if 3 lakh people prepare for IIT then 3 lakh are genious what’s the amount of seat IIT provide 3500 so what should be percentage. very meagre, not even 2%, India carry population of 110 crore and 2% of 3 lakh comeon, you may be getting right opportunity but don’t make Indian’s so negative .that all hold’s good position when given equal space. IITians should sponser if they are millionarie whyn’t a government engineering institute for new gadget’s and better new facilities and lab, ok accounting if u are ready to sponser people are ready to take in charge , as people are supportive in India, cause their alma matter’s, whyn’t consider ur Indian, if I can help a good institute more good student’s would come out, u know the truth that how hard is to get into IIT, so why not chose a college or department where u can help by considering more towards nation, tendency of Indian’s are very common brandname if people are pouring money in their project’s why ,IIT that’s it, if u were ready to do that in other college’s like NIT and government engineering college’s they would give u better result’s, u can create brand name through that also. it’s true the frog story, why Indian’s lag instead creating a ladder everyone jumps on each other where hardly anyone can reach top to get out of the box.

WOULD HAVE MADE LOT GRAMMITICAL MISTAKE

“Look at the development around you. Auto industry, Oil & Gas industry, Telecommunications, Postal, and many more all of which have benefited the citizens of India at a cost that is affordable. But one has to allow a suitable time frame to get to mass orientation. The government is definitely never yet lived to its promises”

That’s right… the govt has never lived to its promises but only govt can make a difference in current India s situation… I am not talking out of defeatist attitude but its not fair to completely blame the government… “Supply abundance of education in primary school” through privatization, but I have told you that why its not possible in a poor rural area. Privatization of Medical education did happen in Karnataka, Tamil nadu and Maharashtra.
- Their fees are exorbitant and affordable only by upper-class elite.
- As opposed to competition theory, the quality of education in this private institute is worst possible. (Probably because of demand being very high). In reply you can argue that then increase the private institutes, but there are already 26000 doctors coming out of Indian medical schools every year with only around 6000 specialization opportunities.

Also you were talking about the development all around you… ok let me introduce you… I am a doctor from a govt hospital… The main indicator for development is Infant Mortality Rate… IMR in India is around 70 per 1000 live births as opposed to America 7 (blacks 14), Japan 4 and Europe 5. The development u are talking about might have improved the life of a crore(rough estimate) but still 30% in India is below poverty line (BPL is decided based on the calorie requirement of a moderate manual worker.. Rupees required to buy the cheapest local food which can fulfill this calorie requirement is our Poverty line. There are no provision of shelter, health or clothes), which is around 311 Rs per person per month. The development you are seeing is just a facade and I hope u see through it. There are patients who cannot afford 10 rs to get a life saving drug which is not available in the hospital. More children die of malnutrition in India than in entire Africa, unbelievable but true. The riches of few cannot be called as development, can it be?

So what is intellectual. Look at the development around you. Auto industry, Oil & Gas industry, Telecommunications, Postal, and many more all of which have benefitted the citizens of India at a cost that is affordable. But one has to allow a suitable time frame to get to masss orientation. The government is definitely never yet lived to its promises.

What i am trying to say (along lines of Atanu) is that if we can privatise and allow abundant supply of education to all concerned, markets will find opportunities to ensure all are educated - and that will reflect equality of people.

Lets not make mountains of molehills. Majority of people are illiterate and at best low education in the traditional sense. Many cant fathom the developments even if provided for free. So lets join hands and contribute in whatever way to over come the localised difficulties rather than make statements that anyway dont seem to be having a solution - not in the last 50 years.

On CNN - IBN yesterday I heard Dr Raja of CPI of talking about Education for All. But by having quotas, aren’t we depriving a student with 85% who may not get an admission now because he has to make way for some one with 45%. Is this justice?

Some others also argued that merit should not be the only criteria for admissions. Students coming from weaker sections of the society also have potential and hence there should be quota. However, how do you guaranteee that someone with 65% from weaker sections of the society has more potential than someone with 85% coming from general category.

Its a complex issue. Reservations could be a short term solution though. However, a combination of economic and social criteria should be considered while formulating reservation policy.

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In re: Agreed, that the primary motive of the private organization is to make money. But why can’t an institution both make money, and provide world-class education? They would provide quality education, just because they want the money. To take an analogy, can private firms provide good medical care, when all that they are interested in, is money? Well, some of the best hospitals in India are private ones - Apollo, and MaxFort, to name just two. Similarly, the best universities, and hospitals, all over the world, are privately funded.

But yes, it is difficult for most people to believe that private firms, working for money, can provide education better than what the govt does. Also, a valid point would be, why would a private firm start a school in some corner of some Indian village, where they wouldn’t make profits? (The answer to the latter would be, for the same reason that firms like HLL and Pepsi provide their goods in almost all corners of the country.)

Even then, this might not be true in the case of education. So in that case, let both private and govt schools flourish. If both are in the “business of educating”, then the govt can tend to those who are neglected by the private. Since the govt is not working for money, this shouldn’t be an issue, correct? Why control the entry of private schools?

In Delhi for example, parents stand in queues for hours, just to get a form. Their 4-yr old will soon be giving interviews at least 5-6 different schools. Why? There is a relative scarcity of good schools here, as compared to the burgeoning population. The politicians who control and regulate education, who refuse the entry of private schools, where do their children go? Rahul Gandhi is known to be a product of Doon School. AB Vajpayee’s foster grand-child studies at Sanskriti.

Let in private players in education. If you have doubts about them, let them function along with the present govt institutes. Within 4-5 years, we’ll be in a position to make an informed decision.