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	<title>Comments on: The Pyramid Has a False Bottom?</title>
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		<title>By: Gaurav Hazrati</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-200000</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaurav Hazrati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree with Karnani for his outright rejection of CKP’s BOP theory. When he says that there is “no fortune” at the BOP he laments the problems of weak infrastructures etc. But at no point CKP mentions that the infrastructure is any good. rather it is CKP who gives instances where unique distribution channels are developed. 

The HLL (now HUL) project “Shakti Amma” is a shining example of BOP innovation. Through no argument in his article can Karnani refute this movement’s success.
It is an example of woman empowerment, of developing local distributors, of developing skills, of tuning the market according to local needs. It is this concept that is building self reliance in the Indian villages. CKP is talking about a saving-consuming-earning cycle as the process to fight poverty. He emphasizes all these equally and says that “…create capacity to consume for themselves and their families.”

Karnani says the “single serve revolution is a dud”. But that’s the only way the poor can buy a product of higher quality. If the Single serve package is not available the poor might never be anywhere in the vicinity of buying a better product.

CKP does mention that rather than charging a premium for the smaller packs (as is generally the case) the company charges the same price as that of larger price. This clearly shows that even if per unit cost might be high the company isn’t charging a higher premium for the smaller unit.

The problem of lower penetration of the iodized salt lies not only in the price premium but also in the lack of education of the people. The HLL’s campaign of selling health through its soap brand lifebuoy met with success. This was done by spreading awareness by educating people against diseases like cholera. I believe this education for the iodized salt will encourage the poor to buy the salt which is crucial for their life. 

Further, the fact that Unilever replicated the iodized salt in other markets of Africa with similar problems suggests that the solution generated in one place CAN be replicated in other countries’ BOP.

When Karnani mentions about the “Aravind  eye hospital”, he must remember he is talking about a country like India. About the BOP market he says “The poor are often geographically dispersed (except for the urban poor concentrated into slums) and culturally heterogeneous.  This dispersion increases distribution and marketing costs and makes it difficult to exploit economies of scale.  Weak infrastructure (transportation, communication, media, and legal) further increases the cost of doing business.  Another factor leading to high costs is the small size of each transaction.” He gave this reasoning to point out that there is no fortune at BOP. I believe it is Karnani who is undermining the efforts. Aravind eye hospital is not only an efficient organization rather it is an organization that has achieved efficiency and cost benefit through innovative processes where Karnani feel have no chance of fortune. 

Completely rejecting the BOP does not fit well the success stories of several organizations. Karnani should talk about the empowerment due to e-Governance. He cannot ignore the telecom revolution that has swept India. Even the giants like Vodafone are entering the Indian market with the hope of huge growth. Innovation is driving the costs down. A brand new handset with some other cost benefits is now available for as low as Rs.800(about $5).Even this amount can be given in interest free installment. The companies ARE targeting the BOP.

I agree with Karnani when he concludes “Certainly the best way for private firms to help eradicate poverty is to invest in upgrading the skills and productivity of the poor, and to help create more employment opportunities for them.  This is the win-win solution; this is the real fortune at the bottom of the pyramid.” However CKP ‘s 12 principles of innovation for BOP already mention the above argument quite emphatically. I guess stating Fortune at the BOP as a mirage is a great fallacy!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree with Karnani for his outright rejection of CKP’s BOP theory. When he says that there is “no fortune” at the BOP he laments the problems of weak infrastructures etc. But at no point CKP mentions that the infrastructure is any good. rather it is CKP who gives instances where unique distribution channels are developed. </p>
<p>The HLL (now HUL) project “Shakti Amma” is a shining example of BOP innovation. Through no argument in his article can Karnani refute this movement’s success.<br />
It is an example of woman empowerment, of developing local distributors, of developing skills, of tuning the market according to local needs. It is this concept that is building self reliance in the Indian villages. CKP is talking about a saving-consuming-earning cycle as the process to fight poverty. He emphasizes all these equally and says that “…create capacity to consume for themselves and their families.”</p>
<p>Karnani says the “single serve revolution is a dud”. But that’s the only way the poor can buy a product of higher quality. If the Single serve package is not available the poor might never be anywhere in the vicinity of buying a better product.</p>
<p>CKP does mention that rather than charging a premium for the smaller packs (as is generally the case) the company charges the same price as that of larger price. This clearly shows that even if per unit cost might be high the company isn’t charging a higher premium for the smaller unit.</p>
<p>The problem of lower penetration of the iodized salt lies not only in the price premium but also in the lack of education of the people. The HLL’s campaign of selling health through its soap brand lifebuoy met with success. This was done by spreading awareness by educating people against diseases like cholera. I believe this education for the iodized salt will encourage the poor to buy the salt which is crucial for their life. </p>
<p>Further, the fact that Unilever replicated the iodized salt in other markets of Africa with similar problems suggests that the solution generated in one place CAN be replicated in other countries’ BOP.</p>
<p>When Karnani mentions about the “Aravind  eye hospital”, he must remember he is talking about a country like India. About the BOP market he says “The poor are often geographically dispersed (except for the urban poor concentrated into slums) and culturally heterogeneous.  This dispersion increases distribution and marketing costs and makes it difficult to exploit economies of scale.  Weak infrastructure (transportation, communication, media, and legal) further increases the cost of doing business.  Another factor leading to high costs is the small size of each transaction.” He gave this reasoning to point out that there is no fortune at BOP. I believe it is Karnani who is undermining the efforts. Aravind eye hospital is not only an efficient organization rather it is an organization that has achieved efficiency and cost benefit through innovative processes where Karnani feel have no chance of fortune. </p>
<p>Completely rejecting the BOP does not fit well the success stories of several organizations. Karnani should talk about the empowerment due to e-Governance. He cannot ignore the telecom revolution that has swept India. Even the giants like Vodafone are entering the Indian market with the hope of huge growth. Innovation is driving the costs down. A brand new handset with some other cost benefits is now available for as low as Rs.800(about $5).Even this amount can be given in interest free installment. The companies ARE targeting the BOP.</p>
<p>I agree with Karnani when he concludes “Certainly the best way for private firms to help eradicate poverty is to invest in upgrading the skills and productivity of the poor, and to help create more employment opportunities for them.  This is the win-win solution; this is the real fortune at the bottom of the pyramid.” However CKP ‘s 12 principles of innovation for BOP already mention the above argument quite emphatically. I guess stating Fortune at the BOP as a mirage is a great fallacy!!</p>
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		<title>By: charu</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-48081</link>
		<dc:creator>charu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-48081</guid>
		<description>Aam Admi,i agree with u 100%.
But i couldn't download the Aneel karnani paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aam Admi,i agree with u 100%.<br />
But i couldn&#8217;t download the Aneel karnani paper.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeZ</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-28090</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-28090</guid>
		<description>True. That clock is ticking, all right.

And it seems ever-closer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. That clock is ticking, all right.</p>
<p>And it seems ever-closer.</p>
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		<title>By: Aam Aadmi</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-17781</link>
		<dc:creator>Aam Aadmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I know why Indians are poor. They pay the highest prices for the lowest quality goods compared to the West. If one objectively looks at the prices for modern goods like cars, tvs, phones, refrigerators, internet access, computers, electricity, petrol, clean water, clean air etc. International living standards cost international money. Hence the lowest standard of living in the world. All this because of illiteracy and inefficient working practices. Also, Indians in general are very socialistic. What they do not understand, is that if all policies are pro-poor, more poor will be created.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I know why Indians are poor. They pay the highest prices for the lowest quality goods compared to the West. If one objectively looks at the prices for modern goods like cars, tvs, phones, refrigerators, internet access, computers, electricity, petrol, clean water, clean air etc. International living standards cost international money. Hence the lowest standard of living in the world. All this because of illiteracy and inefficient working practices. Also, Indians in general are very socialistic. What they do not understand, is that if all policies are pro-poor, more poor will be created.</p>
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		<title>By: Atul Mittal</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-11741</link>
		<dc:creator>Atul Mittal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-11741</guid>
		<description>The Very definition of BoP is false and senseless. How can a person with $2 a day or $50 a month think in his wildest dream to afford high price tehnologies or leisure items. All thanks to CKP for atleast having initiated the dialogue about BoP. To my understanding of BoP consumers (Rural &#38; Urban Slums) the term BoP should be redined from an individual BoP person to a BoP family. This gives us a good sense of relaxation of seeking fortune@BoP. One can easily take 4-5 working members staying in one roof with a monthly income of $250. This gives the family enough purchansing power to buy MeeToo products available at competitive rates or with the help of microfinance.
There is a way out to tap these families and this market will always be available to MNC's who strategically position themselves geographically &#38; demographically in relation to their product offering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Very definition of BoP is false and senseless. How can a person with $2 a day or $50 a month think in his wildest dream to afford high price tehnologies or leisure items. All thanks to CKP for atleast having initiated the dialogue about BoP. To my understanding of BoP consumers (Rural &amp; Urban Slums) the term BoP should be redined from an individual BoP person to a BoP family. This gives us a good sense of relaxation of seeking <a href="mailto:fortune@BoP.">fortune@BoP.</a> One can easily take 4-5 working members staying in one roof with a monthly income of $250. This gives the family enough purchansing power to buy MeeToo products available at competitive rates or with the help of microfinance.<br />
There is a way out to tap these families and this market will always be available to MNC&#8217;s who strategically position themselves geographically &amp; demographically in relation to their product offering.</p>
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		<title>By: Doodad</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-10860</link>
		<dc:creator>Doodad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 03:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-10860</guid>
		<description>I went through the Aneel Karnani paper. For one thing, I did not see satisfactory data to back up the claims. That makes for a pretty shoddy take down. For another, the piece seems to be "personal" for no particular reason, and I am not surprised that people are seeing that as such. Perhaps, it should be seen as a call to clear up some of the numbers and arguments in the BOP book. I think the sarcasm is, however, uncalled for.

&lt;i&gt;However, the fact is that the penetration of Annapurna salt among the poor is miniscule at best&lt;/i&gt;
How miniscule? Or to put it differently, "how many millions served"?

&lt;i&gt;At a price premium of 250%, not too many poor people see it as a bargain&lt;/i&gt;
Is this a question of education or economics? Given that salt is a miniscule fraction of the food budget, Annapurna salt might be the right way to go. If the poor are not lapping it up, it might be because they don't know. But innovation is innovation. It might be something tha might pay off in the longer term.

&lt;i&gt;"Amul, a large diary cooperative, found an instant market ...We doubt too many poor people living on less than $2 per day find this ice cream a bargain.&lt;/i&gt;
"Too many"? Hold the sarcasm please. And again, "how many millions served"?  Let us see some freaking numbers. How many unique customers? How many estimated customers among the poor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went through the Aneel Karnani paper. For one thing, I did not see satisfactory data to back up the claims. That makes for a pretty shoddy take down. For another, the piece seems to be &#8220;personal&#8221; for no particular reason, and I am not surprised that people are seeing that as such. Perhaps, it should be seen as a call to clear up some of the numbers and arguments in the BOP book. I think the sarcasm is, however, uncalled for.</p>
<p><i>However, the fact is that the penetration of Annapurna salt among the poor is miniscule at best</i><br />
How miniscule? Or to put it differently, &#8220;how many millions served&#8221;?</p>
<p><i>At a price premium of 250%, not too many poor people see it as a bargain</i><br />
Is this a question of education or economics? Given that salt is a miniscule fraction of the food budget, Annapurna salt might be the right way to go. If the poor are not lapping it up, it might be because they don&#8217;t know. But innovation is innovation. It might be something tha might pay off in the longer term.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Amul, a large diary cooperative, found an instant market &#8230;We doubt too many poor people living on less than $2 per day find this ice cream a bargain.</i><br />
&#8220;Too many&#8221;? Hold the sarcasm please. And again, &#8220;how many millions served&#8221;?  Let us see some freaking numbers. How many unique customers? How many estimated customers among the poor?</p>
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		<title>By: Doodad</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-10853</link>
		<dc:creator>Doodad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is important to also note the time-variant component of the Bottom of the Pyramid. 

There is an enormous, emergent middle-class in India and China that was not present 20 years ago, and going forward, this part of the bottom of the pyramid will likely surge in numbers and, therefore, market size. About 10 million Indians are getting out of poverty and into the middle class every year. The purchasing power of the Chinese is also increasing very rapidly. I don't this number is going to approach the size of the American market any time soon, but at least, companies will see huge *increases* in market size. So, whether you believe in the 15 years estimate or not depends on your own analysis of the growth of these markets. In some ways, the BOP principle is an idea whose time has come.

My own suspicion is that some level of governmental help might be needed to allow SMEs to grow. At least in the area of finance, it is clear that governmental restrictions on MNCs has helped credit to be available to segments of the population that would not have such access otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is important to also note the time-variant component of the Bottom of the Pyramid. </p>
<p>There is an enormous, emergent middle-class in India and China that was not present 20 years ago, and going forward, this part of the bottom of the pyramid will likely surge in numbers and, therefore, market size. About 10 million Indians are getting out of poverty and into the middle class every year. The purchasing power of the Chinese is also increasing very rapidly. I don&#8217;t this number is going to approach the size of the American market any time soon, but at least, companies will see huge *increases* in market size. So, whether you believe in the 15 years estimate or not depends on your own analysis of the growth of these markets. In some ways, the BOP principle is an idea whose time has come.</p>
<p>My own suspicion is that some level of governmental help might be needed to allow SMEs to grow. At least in the area of finance, it is clear that governmental restrictions on MNCs has helped credit to be available to segments of the population that would not have such access otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Crazyfinger</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-10393</link>
		<dc:creator>Crazyfinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-10393</guid>
		<description>I went back and read both what I wrote and Reuben's response ("&lt;i&gt;...the central flaw in the BOP argument as CKP etc posit, namely that MNC’s are the agents of change by selling into the BOP. Not so. In fact, MNC’s are net negative job creators. Generally speaking, 80% plus of the jobs in an economy are created within the SME sector. So, if you really want to create dramatic growth, you have to get this sector going"&lt;/i&gt;: I don't have to quote those awkward slashes now, do I?:-) )

I agree with the &lt;i&gt;"if you really want to create dramatic growth, you have to get this sector going"&lt;/i&gt; part.  

However, reading the Chap 4 of the BOP book (CKP's), it seems to me that CKP also agrees with it, but goes on to say the following:

"&lt;i&gt;However, traditionally, the focus of both business and social developmental initiatives at the BOP has been on one aspect of the ecosystems for wealth creating at a time - social capital or individual entrepreneurs (the focus of so much of the microfinance efforts), small and medium enterprises (SMEs), or large firms (market liberalization or foreign direct investment).  &lt;b&gt;There have been few attempts to focus on the symbiotic nature of the relationships between various private sector and social institutional players that can lead to a rapid  development of markets at the BOP&lt;/b&gt;."&lt;/i&gt; (first paragraph)

May be I was nitpicking, or missing the devil in the details in my earlier comment, but now it seems to me that CKP's BOP theme is not simply to view "poor people" as consumers but going beyond that and saying such and such an ecosystem is needed in order to &lt;b&gt;make&lt;/b&gt; the poor people producers and entrepreneurs and "oh by the way Mr. MNC, you need to work with these poor people to put this ecosystem in place; it won't happen if you don't pitch in; and the reward for you is they can be a market you can tap into."

Right or wrong?  I think right:-)  In fact now it seems to me that it was Karnani who was nitpicking, by looking only at a partial picture of the entire BOP message.  ??  I don't think CKP was saying so strongly that poor people should be treated as consumers only.  He too was saying they are to be treated as producers and would-be entrepreneurs.

P.S.  In fact I may even go on to say that put it this way, BOP and RISC have similar parallels, skinning the cat in similar ways.  Comments?

Regards,
Crazyfinger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went back and read both what I wrote and Reuben&#8217;s response (&#8221;<i>&#8230;the central flaw in the BOP argument as CKP etc posit, namely that MNC’s are the agents of change by selling into the BOP. Not so. In fact, MNC’s are net negative job creators. Generally speaking, 80% plus of the jobs in an economy are created within the SME sector. So, if you really want to create dramatic growth, you have to get this sector going&#8221;</i>: I don&#8217;t have to quote those awkward slashes now, do I?:-) )</p>
<p>I agree with the <i>&#8220;if you really want to create dramatic growth, you have to get this sector going&#8221;</i> part.  </p>
<p>However, reading the Chap 4 of the BOP book (CKP&#8217;s), it seems to me that CKP also agrees with it, but goes on to say the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>However, traditionally, the focus of both business and social developmental initiatives at the BOP has been on one aspect of the ecosystems for wealth creating at a time - social capital or individual entrepreneurs (the focus of so much of the microfinance efforts), small and medium enterprises (SMEs), or large firms (market liberalization or foreign direct investment).  <b>There have been few attempts to focus on the symbiotic nature of the relationships between various private sector and social institutional players that can lead to a rapid  development of markets at the BOP</b>.&#8221;</i> (first paragraph)</p>
<p>May be I was nitpicking, or missing the devil in the details in my earlier comment, but now it seems to me that CKP&#8217;s BOP theme is not simply to view &#8220;poor people&#8221; as consumers but going beyond that and saying such and such an ecosystem is needed in order to <b>make</b> the poor people producers and entrepreneurs and &#8220;oh by the way Mr. MNC, you need to work with these poor people to put this ecosystem in place; it won&#8217;t happen if you don&#8217;t pitch in; and the reward for you is they can be a market you can tap into.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right or wrong?  I think right:-)  In fact now it seems to me that it was Karnani who was nitpicking, by looking only at a partial picture of the entire BOP message.  ??  I don&#8217;t think CKP was saying so strongly that poor people should be treated as consumers only.  He too was saying they are to be treated as producers and would-be entrepreneurs.</p>
<p>P.S.  In fact I may even go on to say that put it this way, BOP and RISC have similar parallels, skinning the cat in similar ways.  Comments?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Crazyfinger</p>
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		<title>By: ajeet ganga</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-10376</link>
		<dc:creator>ajeet ganga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the whole thread of discussion nobody considered          
 "effect of mass prodiction" 
  For example  Computers.  I agree that the thousand fold price decrease and million times more powerful computers were because of Technological advancement BUT  someone had to invest HUGE amount of money in first place. If the computer market would have been 10 or 20 computers per year ( as predicted by some IBM manager for year 1985 ) there would have been no research in computers.
  This is like chicken and egg situation. Difficult to tell which came first. mass market or huge investement.
  But I think any product when mass produced for 1 billion more consumers will have significantly lower prices.  And that could free up resource of the poor for  
other (hopefully)  better things.  e.g.  If every family from Great Indian Middle Class decides to buy a washing machine (which should be around 200 million I think )  prices could be slashed to 20 to 40 % of the original price.  Now having washing machine can free up 1+ hours a day for each family  now this time IFF utilized can provide a boost to entire economy.  now here I make my assumptions clear. 
  * there is potential market of 200 millin washing m/c in india
  * The time freed could be of a student doing his studies or of a engineer doing work or (civil engg starting salary are about 4K. so they come in almost bottom )  or that of any working women.

So if we see big picture the ending could be really happy if all decide to buy (useful ) stuff. 
  So it turns out to be matter of efficiency boost that poor can get throug consumption of Value Adding commodities.  And list of such things can be stretched  from roti maker , microwave , washing m/c , hair dryer (yes that can save 5 mins a day ) , a moped (hands down), why stop here  ?  why not a tractor for farmers ?
  And now talking about lone sharks. Its very wrongful to picture ALL of them in black. and the lone shark rates are 4-15 % pm depending upon the RISK factor not just because they like to suck you dry.

  Please correct me if I am wrong somewhere .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the whole thread of discussion nobody considered<br />
 &#8220;effect of mass prodiction&#8221;<br />
  For example  Computers.  I agree that the thousand fold price decrease and million times more powerful computers were because of Technological advancement BUT  someone had to invest HUGE amount of money in first place. If the computer market would have been 10 or 20 computers per year ( as predicted by some IBM manager for year 1985 ) there would have been no research in computers.<br />
  This is like chicken and egg situation. Difficult to tell which came first. mass market or huge investement.<br />
  But I think any product when mass produced for 1 billion more consumers will have significantly lower prices.  And that could free up resource of the poor for<br />
other (hopefully)  better things.  e.g.  If every family from Great Indian Middle Class decides to buy a washing machine (which should be around 200 million I think )  prices could be slashed to 20 to 40 % of the original price.  Now having washing machine can free up 1+ hours a day for each family  now this time IFF utilized can provide a boost to entire economy.  now here I make my assumptions clear.<br />
  * there is potential market of 200 millin washing m/c in india<br />
  * The time freed could be of a student doing his studies or of a engineer doing work or (civil engg starting salary are about 4K. so they come in almost bottom )  or that of any working women.</p>
<p>So if we see big picture the ending could be really happy if all decide to buy (useful ) stuff.<br />
  So it turns out to be matter of efficiency boost that poor can get throug consumption of Value Adding commodities.  And list of such things can be stretched  from roti maker , microwave , washing m/c , hair dryer (yes that can save 5 mins a day ) , a moped (hands down), why stop here  ?  why not a tractor for farmers ?<br />
  And now talking about lone sharks. Its very wrongful to picture ALL of them in black. and the lone shark rates are 4-15 % pm depending upon the RISK factor not just because they like to suck you dry.</p>
<p>  Please correct me if I am wrong somewhere .</p>
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		<title>By: Nitin</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-10275</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 08:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2006/08/31/the-pyramid-has-a-false-bottom/#comment-10275</guid>
		<description>Mmm...going back to basics, doesn't the argument depend on two critical factors: the goods in question and the price elasticity of demand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm&#8230;going back to basics, doesn&#8217;t the argument depend on two critical factors: the goods in question and the price elasticity of demand?</p>
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