Comments on: Upcoming IIT Hoopla In Mumbai

By: andiron

andiron — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:29:00 +0000

a good number of iitians are there due to coaching, no doubt. you would alse see bigger cities will dominate..
i hear, nowadays, coaching has become an art: a development that augurs ill for an avg iit calibre.

By: andiron

andiron — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:25:34 +0000

puneet,
did you not take the english exam in iit?

By: Shefaly

Shefaly — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:59:09 +0000

Speaktruth:

“Most of the IIT students attend well-known JEE coaching centers and most of the students come from big cities.”

I do not know recent statistics but when I was in school, most top rankers came from a secondary school in Bhilai - not a coaching centre, not a big city…

Aneesh:

You are experiencing what exasperates some but apparently not many. Some even justify awful usage, spelling and grammar as an unimportant thing in today’s “war for talent”. I am not sure I agree. What good is an idea one cannot communicate? (See an earlier post on the matter:
http://laviequotidienne.wordpress.com/2007/07/10/poor-usage-ok/)

By: Aneesh

Aneesh — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:39:43 +0000

@ Puneet

I’d take you a lot more seriously if you had not sodomised the English language as horribly as you just did.

By: puneet

puneet — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:01:13 +0000

@ajay
iitians are a smart bunch of people whether u doubt it or not that’s your problem. about preparing for jee a fu ppl do it from 7th as u have mentioned and those who do are exceptionally brilliant.(shubhanmesh bose jee2005 120th rank holder,he did his preparation and dude he was f****** smart and extraordinary made alsmost thru all the international olympiads)
about shying away from research… dude v from middle class background and with parents retiring from job pretty soon dun expect to burden them more….and u do get more paid in a job than doing some research moreova v are ENGINEERS NOT SCIENTISTS!!
and if u think merit is not tested by the IITJEE exam (dunno about the recent pattern but pretty sure about the exam that i passed)… trust me its a really diffclt one with hell lots of surprizes!
regards
puneet

By: ajay singh

ajay singh — Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:00:15 +0000

good article
ajay singh

By: SpeakTruth

SpeakTruth — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:02:11 +0000

If IIT students are really meritorious, why do they turn away from research and join money making businesses? That shows that it is not merit but something else is the key to entry into IITs. Some of the IIT students prepare for JEE for more than 5 years (from 7th standard to 12th standard), from 4 AM onwards everyday. Five years of day-night preparation for getting through JEE! You call this merit? You call this brain power? They consider it a big burden - donkey work. That is why the moment they pass out of IIT, they leave all research work and get into money making jobs. To do genuine research you should have genuine liking which in turn depends on genuine merit. This genuine merit can not be tested by JEE. In other words JEE can not distinguish whether a person got a good rank because of merit or five years of donkey work. This is the reason why even after 50 years IITs are nowhere near MIT and Stanford. And the reason why IITians do well is because of links provided by the environment and also the false perceptions about their merit.

Most of the IIT students attend well-known JEE coaching centers and most of the students come from big cities. Does it mean that only big cities produce meritorious students. Very stupid assumption. Merit is uniformly distributed across the nation, not just concentrated in the big cities. So if IITs have huge percentage of students coming from big cities, it means IITs have failed to identify true merit, but they depend on some pseudo-merit indicators.

To make India really great is to look for real merit, not just hyped-up IITs.

By: Platypus

Platypus — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:40:07 +0000

It is a well established fact that brand IIT is definitely sought after by most global corporations across domains & business functions. The young guns coming out of the haloed portals of the IIT’s possess the sharpest of minds.. they are the cream of our nation but the story does not end there.

I feel it is the governments duty to buckle up & start taking higher education seriously.
This can be done by improving the standards of the NIT’s (some of the are in dismal condition) & set up a few more IIT’s without any dilution in their quality.
It should also endeavour in attracting & retaining world class faculty & invest in infrastructure.
Those chinese guys are not sleeping!

By: Aashish Gupta

Aashish Gupta — Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:21:43 +0000

being in iit myself, i can tell you that when you compare iits to the other institurtions in india, it is certainly much better. but just compare it with the world, and you get a very different picture. the level of research is indeed dismal, and in my little interactions with the PhD scholars here, i can telll you that they do not do much, sit around, laze and just get a Phd after wasting the resources of the system for five years. the professors are ofcourse good, but all of us in my batch have serious doubts over the ability of these current phd scholars as future profs.

By: Revathi

Revathi — Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:27:40 +0000

On one hand we have a highly set of highly intelligent people selected on the basis of merit but all they do is to earn a degree at the end of all this study and go on to earn money. Research is not given the right priority in the IITs as is the case in MIT or Harvard. However, this is not just an Indian problem; in most parts of the world very difficult questions are not being tackled by the best brains- the best are using their competence not to solve the universal problems of earth/space but making money and more money. So we have mediocre people and unscrupulous politicians in charge of changing the world.