Comments on: What Is It About Bandwidth in India? http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/ Issues & insights Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:06:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: suren http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-265569 suren Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:46:29 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-265569 My good you guys in India really have a crap deal when it comes to broadband access. Paying Rs 1100 for a 256 kbps connection is daylight robbery. Even in Malaysia where the wired broadband market is monopolised by one company I only pay about Rs 800 for 1.0 Mbps unlimited and I think even that's a rip off. What kind of salary do you have to be earning to afford what seems to be still a luxury. People In UK can get 2.0 Mbps for under 30 or 40 pounds these days I think. Back when I was there 1.0 Mbps was about over 35 pounds in 2003. I think India's middle class has fairly poor purchasing power relative to their earning power and your economy has very high inflation rates. Even though you've got a strong IT sector you need policymakers with the vision to push the future development of affordable high speed access particularly in the dense metros first because the payoffs are good here and then start focusing on the more rural areas. I think the Indian government after having profited from economic growth needs to seriously invest in infrastructure development in a big way and I think they should be taking on a very green and environmentally friendly approach to development to the extent that some of the most sophisticated countries in Europe are doing. My good you guys in India really have a crap deal when it comes to broadband access. Paying Rs 1100 for a 256 kbps connection is daylight robbery. Even in Malaysia where the wired broadband market is monopolised by one company I only pay about Rs 800 for 1.0 Mbps unlimited and I think even that’s a rip off. What kind of salary do you have to be earning to afford what seems to be still a luxury. People In UK can get 2.0 Mbps for under 30 or 40 pounds these days I think. Back when I was there 1.0 Mbps was about over 35 pounds in 2003. I think India’s middle class has fairly poor purchasing power relative to their earning power and your economy has very high inflation rates. Even though you’ve got a strong IT sector you need policymakers with the vision to push the future development of affordable high speed access particularly in the dense metros first because the payoffs are good here and then start focusing on the more rural areas. I think the Indian government after having profited from economic growth needs to seriously invest in infrastructure development in a big way and I think they should be taking on a very green and environmentally friendly approach to development to the extent that some of the most sophisticated countries in Europe are doing.

]]> By: raj http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-265352 raj Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:08:01 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-265352 As per the discussions going on here i agree about the services being provided by ISPs in INDIA.I work with one of the indian ISP co.What we have seen is that comapnies have their own strategy for their benifits then think of bigger profits which could be gained from corporates so its very obvious that households are being neglected.And more thing is that now after the rules being strictened by TRAI companies know about each other and are trying to woo the customers now by promising better service but i believe that is possible but will take big time. As per the discussions going on here i agree about the services being provided by ISPs in INDIA.I work with one of the indian ISP co.What we have seen is that comapnies have their own strategy for their benifits then think of bigger profits which could be gained from corporates so its very obvious that households are being neglected.And more thing is that now after the rules being strictened by TRAI companies know about each other and are trying to woo the customers now by promising better service but i believe that is possible but will take big time.

]]> By: Airtel Broadband Slow Speed Problem - Page 10 - India Broadband Forum http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-264035 Airtel Broadband Slow Speed Problem - Page 10 - India Broadband Forum Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:11:38 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-264035 [...] Slow Speed Problem This blog says india has 20 TB of bandwidth. And that was 1 year ago The Indian Economy Blog What Is It About Bandwidth in India? Still not sure how much total bandwidth is avaialable in [...] [...] Slow Speed Problem This blog says india has 20 TB of bandwidth. And that was 1 year ago The Indian Economy Blog What Is It About Bandwidth in India? Still not sure how much total bandwidth is avaialable in [...]

]]> By: User http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-145787 User Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:42:08 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-145787 Just wanted to say I use Star broadband in Delhi which, according to the little box in the bottom right hand corner, states I get 100.0 mbps (is that good? I'm computer illiterate) with unlimited upload/download for rs. 500. It's good enough for me, though I often have problems with it's reliability. I cannot fault the cable co. though, since my computer is very old (great grandpa) and had enough viruses over the years to fill a pond (sigh- I have lots of guests who don't care what they download). I can't watch videos etc though, but don't know if it's due to my half-dead Win. 98 computer or the cable guy. Someone might be interested in said cheap connection, eh? Star uses 24 online client (whatever that is) which is what I log into. Hope that proves helpful. Just wanted to say I use Star broadband in Delhi which, according to the little box in the bottom right hand corner, states I get 100.0 mbps (is that good? I’m computer illiterate) with unlimited upload/download for rs. 500. It’s good enough for me, though I often have problems with it’s reliability. I cannot fault the cable co. though, since my computer is very old (great grandpa) and had enough viruses over the years to fill a pond (sigh- I have lots of guests who don’t care what they download). I can’t watch videos etc though, but don’t know if it’s due to my half-dead Win. 98 computer or the cable guy. Someone might be interested in said cheap connection, eh? Star uses 24 online client (whatever that is) which is what I log into. Hope that proves helpful.

]]> By: Vic http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-132946 Vic Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:05:20 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-132946 Nitin makes a really good point about the low PC penetration. I see your argument that if broadband internet was offered, RELIABLE broadband that is, then there'd be more PCs, but that would still be a guess. A company would have to offer top tier broadband with the CHANCE that more people will take advantage of it. Obviously companies would want to profit, and you said it yourself, why wouldn't they want to make money? There has to be someone on payroll position telling the higher ups that there isn't a demand in India for anything more than 1 MBps. India is indeed a huge market though, just off its sheer population size alone, your estimates of at least 1 million customers isn't far fetched. Just tough it out for now. I don't think anyone doubts that the broadband speed will get better. <a href="http://t1-t3-dsl.com" rel="nofollow">Get Valuable information about T1 lines, T3 lines and DSL lines.</a> Nitin makes a really good point about the low PC penetration. I see your argument that if broadband internet was offered, RELIABLE broadband that is, then there’d be more PCs, but that would still be a guess. A company would have to offer top tier broadband with the CHANCE that more people will take advantage of it. Obviously companies would want to profit, and you said it yourself, why wouldn’t they want to make money? There has to be someone on payroll position telling the higher ups that there isn’t a demand in India for anything more than 1 MBps. India is indeed a huge market though, just off its sheer population size alone, your estimates of at least 1 million customers isn’t far fetched. Just tough it out for now. I don’t think anyone doubts that the broadband speed will get better.

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]]> By: Savvy http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-120230 Savvy Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:50:41 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-120230 People are never satisfied with what they have. Only four years back I was on 128kbps without download limits and I thought that was lightning speed considering the speed that I had on dial-up. My pc was on 24 7 downloading movies and stuffs but now that I have 4 mbps with unlimited download (though there are speeds of upto 24mbps with expensive subscription), I still think that its not fast enough as it takes ages to download dvds. Now, that is because I am in UK but considering the frustration trying to talk over VOIP services to my brother back home in Nepal who uses 256 kbps shared bandwidth broadband and pays much more than what I pay here, you guys are very lucky in India. As there has been a deal between Nepal Telecom with one of the internet gateway in India, I am expecting the service to get better in coming future. The message I am trying to convey here is that we never seem to get enough. Even though India s consumers might get more bandwidth at reasonable rate soon, the evolution of next generation high definition dvds with 45 to 50 gb capacity and high definition IPTVs will make the increase in bandwidth lagging far behind the requirement. So I think we should be content with what we have got for the time being and wait and expect that these techie guys come up with genius ideas to increase the internet speed exponentially year on year. People are never satisfied with what they have. Only four years back I was on 128kbps without download limits and I thought that was lightning speed considering the speed that I had on dial-up. My pc was on 24 7 downloading movies and stuffs but now that I have 4 mbps with unlimited download (though there are speeds of upto 24mbps with expensive subscription), I still think that its not fast enough as it takes ages to download dvds. Now, that is because I am in UK but considering the frustration trying to talk over VOIP services to my brother back home in Nepal who uses 256 kbps shared bandwidth broadband and pays much more than what I pay here, you guys are very lucky in India. As there has been a deal between Nepal Telecom with one of the internet gateway in India, I am expecting the service to get better in coming future.
The message I am trying to convey here is that we never seem to get enough. Even though India s consumers might get more bandwidth at reasonable rate soon, the evolution of next generation high definition dvds with 45 to 50 gb capacity and high definition IPTVs will make the increase in bandwidth lagging far behind the requirement. So I think we should be content with what we have got for the time being and wait and expect that these techie guys come up with genius ideas to increase the internet speed exponentially year on year.

]]> By: jayavel http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-118573 jayavel Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:01:12 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-118573 The problem of lack of bandwidth can be attributed to the following set of factors (1) There is no responsible politician who is tech savvy like Algore Ex.V.P of USA, Mr. Maran and co are doing just gimmick. (2) There is no consorted national effort to harness the human capital in this country. Our political leaders do not pep up the enterprising elements but they implicitly dampen them.(3) Unless there is a popular demand as the demand for the colour TV in T.N.State Election no body would hear you.(3) The legal frame work in this county especially the laws governing the contracts and their implementation must be throughly revised. Still we are following the Contract Law based on premises built in previous centuries by the East India Company. The free portal and Email service contracts as done by Yahoo and MSN are void in our country. Even then the urge to make digital document at lowest strata of the society must be heard from all the sections of this society. Certainly the Babus of Government who are more concerned about their service benefit than their productivity and self denying their own tech interest, will not let any such popular demand being transformed into meaningful action. So this is merely a clattering shop. The problem of lack of bandwidth can be attributed to the following set of factors (1) There is no responsible politician who is tech savvy like Algore Ex.V.P of USA, Mr. Maran and co are doing just gimmick. (2) There is no consorted national effort to harness the human capital in this country. Our political leaders do not pep up the enterprising elements but they implicitly dampen them.(3) Unless there is a popular demand as the demand for the colour TV in T.N.State Election no body would hear you.(3) The legal frame work in this county especially the laws governing the contracts and their implementation must be throughly revised. Still we are following the Contract Law based on premises built in previous centuries by the East India Company. The free portal and Email service contracts as done by Yahoo and MSN are void in our country. Even then the urge to make digital document at lowest strata of the society must be heard from all the sections of this society. Certainly the Babus of Government who are more concerned about their service benefit than their productivity and self denying their own tech interest, will not let any such popular demand being transformed into meaningful action. So this is merely a clattering shop.

]]> By: Lot W http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-117856 Lot W Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:53:19 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-117856 I realize we aren't talking about the US, but local ownership of the last mile could be the a part of the broadband solution everywhere: <a href="http://www.newrules.org/info/5ways.html" rel="nofollow">Five Ways Public Ownership Solves the U.S. Broadband Problem</a>. Anyone know how happy Reliance or Airtel might be if local governments started operating on their turf? I realize we aren’t talking about the US, but local ownership of the last mile could be the a part of the broadband solution everywhere: Five Ways Public Ownership Solves the U.S. Broadband Problem. Anyone know how happy Reliance or Airtel might be if local governments started operating on their turf?

]]> By: Aswin Anand http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-117125 Aswin Anand Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:06:52 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-117125 <em>A heavy user torrents files and downloads albums. One hi-res movie is about 2-4 GB, so a 10 GB limit will not do :)</em> Correct. One of my friends downloads over 80 GB a month. Internet is always on at his home. And yup! downloading takes a painfully long time of 30 days with the computer being switched on for 24/7. On the other hand, we have bsnl offering a 2 MBPS broadband and the limit of 2.5 GB sinks within a day or two which is so damn bad. They should offer atleast 20 GB. 256 KBPS is not broadband speed. It is just a faster dialup connection. But considering where we were a few years and where we are now, the improvement is phenomenol. I certainly would be willing to pay 2K for a quality *real* broadband access. A heavy user torrents files and downloads albums. One hi-res movie is about 2-4 GB, so a 10 GB limit will not do :)

Correct. One of my friends downloads over 80 GB a month. Internet is always on at his home. And yup! downloading takes a painfully long time of 30 days with the computer being switched on for 24/7. On the other hand, we have bsnl offering a 2 MBPS broadband and the limit of 2.5 GB sinks within a day or two which is so damn bad. They should offer atleast 20 GB. 256 KBPS is not broadband speed. It is just a faster dialup connection. But considering where we were a few years and where we are now, the improvement is phenomenol. I certainly would be willing to pay 2K for a quality *real* broadband access.

]]> By: Shankar http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-116538 Shankar Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:21:21 +0000 http://indianeconomy.org/2007/02/23/what-is-it-about-bandwidth-in-india/#comment-116538 Airtel provides by far the best bandwidth in India. Go for their unlimited download plan (Rs. 1200/- per month), think it's available in Bangalore in select places only so far. Airtel provides by far the best bandwidth in India. Go for their unlimited download plan (Rs. 1200/- per month), think it’s available in Bangalore in select places only so far.

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