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	<title>Comments on: Climate Change: Why India Must Act</title>
	<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/</link>
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		<title>By: M. Hemalatha</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-265903</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Hemalatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 08:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well…First &#38; the foremost the world is one. So whatever be the consequences of the large scale climate change, mother nature is going to distribute it impartially. So it becomes extremely vital for us to understand that the efforts towards a cleaner world have to be made by all. Be it a developed country, developing country or an underdeveloped one, Co2 emissions are Co2 emissions &#38; global warming is global warming. Perhaps the argument made by the developed countries or perhaps by China &#38; India on their behalf is economically valid &#38; crucial for their own primary industrial economies, but a efficient technology like advancement in solar energy, hydrogen cell fuel etc. stand to benefit them to in the longer race. Because as you know, renewable sources of energy that according to my knowledge contribute to a great sphere of hazardous emissions. Well, what stand does India play in the whole gamut? India is home to world’s two global warming tipping destinations….Deccan Plateau &#38; Andhra Pradesh. Besides, we cannot even assure ourselves of any promising technology without depending upon the ones that are cleaner &#38; costlier.

           However, the whole issue of developing countries can perhaps be solved with an increased co operation &#38; mutual understanding between the developed &#38; developing nations. We need to recognize that  the poor countries have the right to economic development, but we also need to acknowledge the vulnerability of the poor countries to the  effects of climate change. And coincidentally or otherwise, it is mainly the poor countries {Esp. African} due to their geography that’ll have to face the most extremes of global warming.

The latest evidence collated by the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) predicts that the global average temperature will rise by between 1.5C and 4.5C if human activities double the amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere. In addition, under such circumstances, our world is not in a position to portray stubbornness against global welfare. It is for this reason that President Bush’s commitment to environmental welfare was criticized when announced that he won’t be ratifying Kyoto Protocol on account of its potential to damage the country financially. Yet we find that, out of total CO2 emissions - 5,410 million metric tons per year - almost a quarter of the World's total CO2 emissions account USA as their source


We need to recognize that…THIS WORL IS ONE………</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well…First &amp; the foremost the world is one. So whatever be the consequences of the large scale climate change, mother nature is going to distribute it impartially. So it becomes extremely vital for us to understand that the efforts towards a cleaner world have to be made by all. Be it a developed country, developing country or an underdeveloped one, Co2 emissions are Co2 emissions &amp; global warming is global warming. Perhaps the argument made by the developed countries or perhaps by China &amp; India on their behalf is economically valid &amp; crucial for their own primary industrial economies, but a efficient technology like advancement in solar energy, hydrogen cell fuel etc. stand to benefit them to in the longer race. Because as you know, renewable sources of energy that according to my knowledge contribute to a great sphere of hazardous emissions. Well, what stand does India play in the whole gamut? India is home to world’s two global warming tipping destinations….Deccan Plateau &amp; Andhra Pradesh. Besides, we cannot even assure ourselves of any promising technology without depending upon the ones that are cleaner &amp; costlier.</p>
<p>           However, the whole issue of developing countries can perhaps be solved with an increased co operation &amp; mutual understanding between the developed &amp; developing nations. We need to recognize that  the poor countries have the right to economic development, but we also need to acknowledge the vulnerability of the poor countries to the  effects of climate change. And coincidentally or otherwise, it is mainly the poor countries {Esp. African} due to their geography that’ll have to face the most extremes of global warming.</p>
<p>The latest evidence collated by the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) predicts that the global average temperature will rise by between 1.5C and 4.5C if human activities double the amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere. In addition, under such circumstances, our world is not in a position to portray stubbornness against global welfare. It is for this reason that President Bush’s commitment to environmental welfare was criticized when announced that he won’t be ratifying Kyoto Protocol on account of its potential to damage the country financially. Yet we find that, out of total CO2 emissions - 5,410 million metric tons per year - almost a quarter of the World&#8217;s total CO2 emissions account USA as their source</p>
<p>We need to recognize that…THIS WORL IS ONE………</p>
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		<title>By: Subrahmanyam Jamisetty</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-265256</link>
		<dc:creator>Subrahmanyam Jamisetty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 06:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-265256</guid>
		<description>We are more to Benefit from this climate change,
India should cooperate with everybody on Global warming. We are forgetting, Sun shines 365 days of the year and in abundance in the developing world, our fore fathers have recycled everything and have been using bio-degradble material since a long time. ex jute bags, cow dung, wood, list goes on..by agreeing to climate change we will definitely have a low GDP, but that does kill the population...we will preserve the weather for our children...grand children. Brothers and sisters of developing world, we have not got intoxicated with modern amenities, we can adjust to power cuts..we can live without modern aminities, what we cannot live is without water, pure air and food. For food, water, and quality air we to grow trees everywhere. Trees lower the temperture, attracts moisture, gives food. Lets plant more trees... that's the secret for the developing world. Build more natural lakes which are small.

If 5 billion people of the developing world plant 10 trees each, i dont think we will ever hear global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are more to Benefit from this climate change,<br />
India should cooperate with everybody on Global warming. We are forgetting, Sun shines 365 days of the year and in abundance in the developing world, our fore fathers have recycled everything and have been using bio-degradble material since a long time. ex jute bags, cow dung, wood, list goes on..by agreeing to climate change we will definitely have a low GDP, but that does kill the population&#8230;we will preserve the weather for our children&#8230;grand children. Brothers and sisters of developing world, we have not got intoxicated with modern amenities, we can adjust to power cuts..we can live without modern aminities, what we cannot live is without water, pure air and food. For food, water, and quality air we to grow trees everywhere. Trees lower the temperture, attracts moisture, gives food. Lets plant more trees&#8230; that&#8217;s the secret for the developing world. Build more natural lakes which are small.</p>
<p>If 5 billion people of the developing world plant 10 trees each, i dont think we will ever hear global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: The Discomfort Zone &#124; India and the Politics of Climate Change</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-264644</link>
		<dc:creator>The Discomfort Zone &#124; India and the Politics of Climate Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-264644</guid>
		<description>[...] Such cooperation could be pursued for two reasons. The first is merely existential – anything that triggers a collective mitigation response from the developed world helps India. But a more compelling argument is political – by not participating in negotiations India risks the creation of a framework that does not reflect its concerns (see Why India Must Act). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Such cooperation could be pursued for two reasons. The first is merely existential – anything that triggers a collective mitigation response from the developed world helps India. But a more compelling argument is political – by not participating in negotiations India risks the creation of a framework that does not reflect its concerns (see Why India Must Act). [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: India and the Politics of Climate Change Negotiations at Blogbharti</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-264458</link>
		<dc:creator>India and the Politics of Climate Change Negotiations at Blogbharti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-264458</guid>
		<description>[...] weather patterns that can be easily disrupted by rising temperatures. Therefore, India should be at the forefront of efforts to establish a post-Kyoto treaty for collective action. Even as its involvement is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] weather patterns that can be easily disrupted by rising temperatures. Therefore, India should be at the forefront of efforts to establish a post-Kyoto treaty for collective action. Even as its involvement is [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Krishnaraj Rao</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-263406</link>
		<dc:creator>Krishnaraj Rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-263406</guid>
		<description>Maybe we are going about this thing all wrong -- trying to attack the many arms of the Climate Change problem instead of going for its eye.

On the face of it, Climate Change is a problem of excess CO2 emissions. But analyse deeper, and one finds that it's a problem of overconsumption by all of us, individuals, corporates, government.

Analyse still deeper, and one finds that overconsumption is triggered by and funded by CREDIT. There is an overabundance of bank credit -- far out of proportion to actual earnings and savings -- that gives people the power to overspend and overconsume.

So this is where the cancerous tumour can be clearly isolated from human flesh. This is where we can start cutting away surgically, methodically, without hurting too many people.

CONSUMER CREDIT -- loans extended by banks for purchase of new vehicles and consumer appliances -- is a major artery feeding this tumour. Easy loans warp our purchasing decisions, making our desires seem like needs.

Two calls from an aggressive marketer of car loans is all I need to make me feel that I NEED to step up from my family car to an SUV. 

CREDIT CARDS make one feel really wealthy, by enabling one to securely carry large amounts equivalent to many months' earnings in ones wallet.

And when you do that, you are potentially able to do all those wonderful, beautiful, generous things that you see in TV commercials like buying your wife a diamond solitaire, booking the Presidential suite for your wedding anniversary or surprising her with a couple of air-tickets to Paris.

Consumer credit and credit-cards are the hot air causing the great big Economic Growth balloon to go up... and up... and up.

Driven by this excessive consumer demand, a number of industries flourish, new corporates are created, and new factories get built, diversified, expanded, acquired... We aren't only borrowing economically, we are borrowing ecologically. 

Suggested line of action: At an individual level, we should stop buying things with credit, and stop using our credit cards. It is worth cutting up our credit cards. Let us stop borrowing from the future.

And as a community of concerned citizens, let us lobby for a clampdown on consumer credit. Let us write to the government, to our Central Banks and to individual banks and bankers. 

Let each person in the banking industry be targetted with this message: Cap and roll back. Let us ask for a freeze of consumer credit at current levels this year, and a 50% reduction in the amounts of credit given each year. 

This would give the economy about three years to adjust to the changing scenario. 

Three years is 36 months -- far more time than the economy and its stakeholders get for adjustment when the stock-markets crash. So why delay, postpone and vacillate?

Warmly,
Krishnaraj Rao
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we are going about this thing all wrong &#8212; trying to attack the many arms of the Climate Change problem instead of going for its eye.</p>
<p>On the face of it, Climate Change is a problem of excess CO2 emissions. But analyse deeper, and one finds that it&#8217;s a problem of overconsumption by all of us, individuals, corporates, government.</p>
<p>Analyse still deeper, and one finds that overconsumption is triggered by and funded by CREDIT. There is an overabundance of bank credit &#8212; far out of proportion to actual earnings and savings &#8212; that gives people the power to overspend and overconsume.</p>
<p>So this is where the cancerous tumour can be clearly isolated from human flesh. This is where we can start cutting away surgically, methodically, without hurting too many people.</p>
<p>CONSUMER CREDIT &#8212; loans extended by banks for purchase of new vehicles and consumer appliances &#8212; is a major artery feeding this tumour. Easy loans warp our purchasing decisions, making our desires seem like needs.</p>
<p>Two calls from an aggressive marketer of car loans is all I need to make me feel that I NEED to step up from my family car to an SUV. </p>
<p>CREDIT CARDS make one feel really wealthy, by enabling one to securely carry large amounts equivalent to many months&#8217; earnings in ones wallet.</p>
<p>And when you do that, you are potentially able to do all those wonderful, beautiful, generous things that you see in TV commercials like buying your wife a diamond solitaire, booking the Presidential suite for your wedding anniversary or surprising her with a couple of air-tickets to Paris.</p>
<p>Consumer credit and credit-cards are the hot air causing the great big Economic Growth balloon to go up&#8230; and up&#8230; and up.</p>
<p>Driven by this excessive consumer demand, a number of industries flourish, new corporates are created, and new factories get built, diversified, expanded, acquired&#8230; We aren&#8217;t only borrowing economically, we are borrowing ecologically. </p>
<p>Suggested line of action: At an individual level, we should stop buying things with credit, and stop using our credit cards. It is worth cutting up our credit cards. Let us stop borrowing from the future.</p>
<p>And as a community of concerned citizens, let us lobby for a clampdown on consumer credit. Let us write to the government, to our Central Banks and to individual banks and bankers. </p>
<p>Let each person in the banking industry be targetted with this message: Cap and roll back. Let us ask for a freeze of consumer credit at current levels this year, and a 50% reduction in the amounts of credit given each year. </p>
<p>This would give the economy about three years to adjust to the changing scenario. </p>
<p>Three years is 36 months &#8212; far more time than the economy and its stakeholders get for adjustment when the stock-markets crash. So why delay, postpone and vacillate?</p>
<p>Warmly,<br />
Krishnaraj Rao</p>
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		<title>By: Climate Change and India: Negotiating A Friendly Global Policy at The Discomfort Zone</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-225371</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate Change and India: Negotiating A Friendly Global Policy at The Discomfort Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-225371</guid>
		<description>[...] There are both ethical and economic arguments for India to participate in global climate change action. After all, climate change threatens India more than most countries yet its inaction engenders inaction by the US and other major emitters. Climate change is also an economic opportunity, which has created new industries such as cleantech, and provides developing countries the ability to leapfrog to a low-carbon economy now, rather than transitioning to one later (see also Beyond Principle (IEB, or Pragati July 2007). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] There are both ethical and economic arguments for India to participate in global climate change action. After all, climate change threatens India more than most countries yet its inaction engenders inaction by the US and other major emitters. Climate change is also an economic opportunity, which has created new industries such as cleantech, and provides developing countries the ability to leapfrog to a low-carbon economy now, rather than transitioning to one later (see also Beyond Principle (IEB, or Pragati July 2007). [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: US To Lead Climate Change Plans at The Discomfort Zone</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-222034</link>
		<dc:creator>US To Lead Climate Change Plans at The Discomfort Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-222034</guid>
		<description>[...] There are two things interesting about this report. First, there is now clearly enough momentum within the US for climate change action that domestic legislation will take place. More important, lobby groups (such as labor unions) will ensure that such legislation gets extended to the international arena, so some form of post-Kyoto framework is not a certainty. Unfortunately, by clinging desperately - and for far too long - to their ethical stance on climate change, India and other developing nations seem to have missed the opportunity to shape that international framework, loosing a great opportunity for bargaining on trade and technology transfer (see previous post on IEB, or here). They must now face the consequences. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] There are two things interesting about this report. First, there is now clearly enough momentum within the US for climate change action that domestic legislation will take place. More important, lobby groups (such as labor unions) will ensure that such legislation gets extended to the international arena, so some form of post-Kyoto framework is not a certainty. Unfortunately, by clinging desperately - and for far too long - to their ethical stance on climate change, India and other developing nations seem to have missed the opportunity to shape that international framework, loosing a great opportunity for bargaining on trade and technology transfer (see previous post on IEB, or here). They must now face the consequences. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The Indian Economy Blog &#187; The Politics of Negotiating Climate Change</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-202067</link>
		<dc:creator>The Indian Economy Blog &#187; The Politics of Negotiating Climate Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-202067</guid>
		<description>[...] I have previously discussed why India must embrace climate change action and push for an international treaty, on the IEB and Pragati. An upcoming article will discuss further what India’s negotiating strategy needs to be. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I have previously discussed why India must embrace climate change action and push for an international treaty, on the IEB and Pragati. An upcoming article will discuss further what India’s negotiating strategy needs to be. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The Politics of Negotiating Climate Change: Implications for India at The Discomfort Zone</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-202066</link>
		<dc:creator>The Politics of Negotiating Climate Change: Implications for India at The Discomfort Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-202066</guid>
		<description>[...] I have previously discussed why India must embrace climate change action and push for an international treaty, on the IEB and Pragati. An upcoming article will discuss further what India&#8217;s negotiating strategy needs to be. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I have previously discussed why India must embrace climate change action and push for an international treaty, on the IEB and Pragati. An upcoming article will discuss further what India&#8217;s negotiating strategy needs to be. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ritesh</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-192385</link>
		<dc:creator>Ritesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://indianeconomy.org/2007/06/12/climate-change-why-india-must-act/#comment-192385</guid>
		<description>Hi,

Just reading the comments here, i would like to share some of my own:

It is universally agreed that the problem, so to speak, of global warming has been created by the west. Although the world owes most of its industrial and modern development to the west and currently 'rich' nations. Please note  that the very essence of business in the west has been the creation of a need and then proposing solutions for its abatement. this was fine till the time geo-political issues and commercialism was at bay. 

We all know that as always, it is the west again that has the necessary technology to help abate global warming. Be it better insulation or be it better power generation/technologies which use a fraction of the energy which traditionally has been used. India and other developing nations do not have access to this primary technology and would either have to licence it from the west or wait till some great indian company acquires this technology from the west (mostly at the time a newer technology is available to replace the acquired technology). developing nations therefore will be 'buying' these technologies from the west or be controlled stringently by the technology transfers they receive. 

in either case, it seems to me that this is another opportunity the west is propagating to earn money, which is not necessarily bad.......its just the looking out for number 1 syndrome. given this, the indian and chinese reply to these developments is befitting given that we are still developing the technologies at an abysmally low speed. 

global warning is a problem which will effect us in every possible way discovered and yet to be discovered. however the fear psychosis used at the moment of imminent danger is yet to be proven substantially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Just reading the comments here, i would like to share some of my own:</p>
<p>It is universally agreed that the problem, so to speak, of global warming has been created by the west. Although the world owes most of its industrial and modern development to the west and currently &#8216;rich&#8217; nations. Please note  that the very essence of business in the west has been the creation of a need and then proposing solutions for its abatement. this was fine till the time geo-political issues and commercialism was at bay. </p>
<p>We all know that as always, it is the west again that has the necessary technology to help abate global warming. Be it better insulation or be it better power generation/technologies which use a fraction of the energy which traditionally has been used. India and other developing nations do not have access to this primary technology and would either have to licence it from the west or wait till some great indian company acquires this technology from the west (mostly at the time a newer technology is available to replace the acquired technology). developing nations therefore will be &#8216;buying&#8217; these technologies from the west or be controlled stringently by the technology transfers they receive. </p>
<p>in either case, it seems to me that this is another opportunity the west is propagating to earn money, which is not necessarily bad&#8230;&#8230;.its just the looking out for number 1 syndrome. given this, the indian and chinese reply to these developments is befitting given that we are still developing the technologies at an abysmally low speed. </p>
<p>global warning is a problem which will effect us in every possible way discovered and yet to be discovered. however the fear psychosis used at the moment of imminent danger is yet to be proven substantially.</p>
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