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	<title>Comments on: Education and The State: Seeking Balance</title>
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		<title>By: Kiran P</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2008/04/07/education-and-the-state-seeking-balance/#comment-268394</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiran P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly lets try to answer the question "Has privatisation really happened in Education"?

If you compare the sector with private sector investments in education in other countries the answer would be a resounding "NO".
If you compare with OTHER SECTORS in India like Telecom, Airlines,Banks, Insurance which have been through a regulated opening up process again the answer would be a resounding "NO".

So lets not call the half-baked initiatives that exist in India today as "privatisation".

And as for the comments that privatisation would benefit the profit-seekers and the rich - havent we heard these before when 
- telecom was being opened up
- airlines were being opened up
- insurance was being opened up
- banking was being opened up

The question really is can India learn from its OWN success stories in other Sectors and replicate quickly or do we have to agonize sector-by-sector and come to the same conclusions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly lets try to answer the question &#8220;Has privatisation really happened in Education&#8221;?</p>
<p>If you compare the sector with private sector investments in education in other countries the answer would be a resounding &#8220;NO&#8221;.<br />
If you compare with OTHER SECTORS in India like Telecom, Airlines,Banks, Insurance which have been through a regulated opening up process again the answer would be a resounding &#8220;NO&#8221;.</p>
<p>So lets not call the half-baked initiatives that exist in India today as &#8220;privatisation&#8221;.</p>
<p>And as for the comments that privatisation would benefit the profit-seekers and the rich - havent we heard these before when<br />
- telecom was being opened up<br />
- airlines were being opened up<br />
- insurance was being opened up<br />
- banking was being opened up</p>
<p>The question really is can India learn from its OWN success stories in other Sectors and replicate quickly or do we have to agonize sector-by-sector and come to the same conclusions?</p>
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		<title>By: Ashwini</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2008/04/07/education-and-the-state-seeking-balance/#comment-265742</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashwini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 09:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the careful analysis done on the present educational system.
  To supplement the efforts of the government and to improve the quality of education,
private educational institutions emerged in recent past.The main aim of private educational
institutions is to pocket profit.With this aim in view they have started capitation fees.The
poor parents cannot afford exorbitant fees charged by these institutions and are thus being deprived of quality education.They are thus forced to admit their wards in public schools.
  To improve quality of education in public sector institutions,government should improve infrastructure facilities in those institutions and at same time frequently conduct orientation courses for teachers in the public schools so that standard of imparting education  in these institutions will improve.
  It is necessary to bring parity in respect of educational standards run by public and private sector rather than privatization of educational institutions. Further educational institutions having high standard of  education can coordinate with
other public schools whose educational quality is below par and strive to improve their standard by acting as their mentor.A good educational  institution should take 2-3 weaker institutions under its wings and try to improve them.
  Be it a public or private educational institution ,main aim should be on imparting
first-hand knowledge and syllabus being job-oriented and not academics-oriented  to make students more and more competitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the careful analysis done on the present educational system.<br />
  To supplement the efforts of the government and to improve the quality of education,<br />
private educational institutions emerged in recent past.The main aim of private educational<br />
institutions is to pocket profit.With this aim in view they have started capitation fees.The<br />
poor parents cannot afford exorbitant fees charged by these institutions and are thus being deprived of quality education.They are thus forced to admit their wards in public schools.<br />
  To improve quality of education in public sector institutions,government should improve infrastructure facilities in those institutions and at same time frequently conduct orientation courses for teachers in the public schools so that standard of imparting education  in these institutions will improve.<br />
  It is necessary to bring parity in respect of educational standards run by public and private sector rather than privatization of educational institutions. Further educational institutions having high standard of  education can coordinate with<br />
other public schools whose educational quality is below par and strive to improve their standard by acting as their mentor.A good educational  institution should take 2-3 weaker institutions under its wings and try to improve them.<br />
  Be it a public or private educational institution ,main aim should be on imparting<br />
first-hand knowledge and syllabus being job-oriented and not academics-oriented  to make students more and more competitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Debashish Bramha</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2008/04/07/education-and-the-state-seeking-balance/#comment-265672</link>
		<dc:creator>Debashish Bramha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well dear I read all the post, I too commented on this post; some body remarked that it should be considered as Social Engineering, and it is absolutely true.

The whole mechanism of Education and Health care is not working in India.

Why privatization should get priority in primary education the reason is as follows:
Whenever I travel by train I buy a bottle of Aquafina, or Kinlay .
Both are American MNC making and selling purified drinking water for the elite Indian so class educated middle class, who can afford to buy that.

I really can not trust the drinking water of the Indian Railway stations or even in that case Indian Airport also they are so unhygienic.

My dear friend even after sixty years of independence the govt is not in a position to give safe drinking water and sanitation, how can you think about giving quality primary education.

If you go by Maslows Need Hierarchy, Roti( Wheat) , Kapra( Clothing’s) , Sanitation come in the Physiological need, primary education will be coming in the Safety need one step ahead of Physiological need

Mr. Chidambaram said about 200 Mn Indian are still below the Poverty level.
The basic mind set of the Indian has to change, a total paradigm shift in attitude is required and which is next to impossible.

If you can keep a part of your population illiterate it is beneficial to the political parties, you can brainwash them easily works as a captive vote bank.

Educations give deep analytical power which is dangerous for our political parties to win elections.

A section of the population should be blind so you can have captive vote bank for political parties.

At least the public-private cooperation should be there in the primary education. 

Mr. Azim Premji’s education foundation is doing an incredible job. 
Mr. Sunil Bharti Mittal is also planning to come out with basic schools.

I agree with you all, education gives a tremendous dividend in the long run, though your investment may be minimal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well dear I read all the post, I too commented on this post; some body remarked that it should be considered as Social Engineering, and it is absolutely true.</p>
<p>The whole mechanism of Education and Health care is not working in India.</p>
<p>Why privatization should get priority in primary education the reason is as follows:<br />
Whenever I travel by train I buy a bottle of Aquafina, or Kinlay .<br />
Both are American MNC making and selling purified drinking water for the elite Indian so class educated middle class, who can afford to buy that.</p>
<p>I really can not trust the drinking water of the Indian Railway stations or even in that case Indian Airport also they are so unhygienic.</p>
<p>My dear friend even after sixty years of independence the govt is not in a position to give safe drinking water and sanitation, how can you think about giving quality primary education.</p>
<p>If you go by Maslows Need Hierarchy, Roti( Wheat) , Kapra( Clothing’s) , Sanitation come in the Physiological need, primary education will be coming in the Safety need one step ahead of Physiological need</p>
<p>Mr. Chidambaram said about 200 Mn Indian are still below the Poverty level.<br />
The basic mind set of the Indian has to change, a total paradigm shift in attitude is required and which is next to impossible.</p>
<p>If you can keep a part of your population illiterate it is beneficial to the political parties, you can brainwash them easily works as a captive vote bank.</p>
<p>Educations give deep analytical power which is dangerous for our political parties to win elections.</p>
<p>A section of the population should be blind so you can have captive vote bank for political parties.</p>
<p>At least the public-private cooperation should be there in the primary education. </p>
<p>Mr. Azim Premji’s education foundation is doing an incredible job.<br />
Mr. Sunil Bharti Mittal is also planning to come out with basic schools.</p>
<p>I agree with you all, education gives a tremendous dividend in the long run, though your investment may be minimal.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikhita</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2008/04/07/education-and-the-state-seeking-balance/#comment-265671</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikhita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before posting a comment I appreciate the systematic analysis done.
According to me the fact that privatization would add to the competition and help improve the quality of primary education in India would stand true if people in India actually think of helping the nation improve by empowering the human resource available in the form of youth. However going by the economic point of view and taking into consideration the basic assumption about 'The Economic Man' where it is assumed that every consumer tries to get maximum satisfaction from whatever he does or invests in, I don't think the private sector would invest in education without looking forward to some kind of profit. This would only further worsen the situation and further widen the gap between the elite and the poor in terms of the quality of education provided. On the other hand I would not like to blame the teacher's teaching in public schools as the conditions in which they are expected to work and help the children compete with the others who have better facilities is absolutely unfair.
	Talking about the school choice- it is completely unrealistic because the choice is limited to a chosen few! A small suggestion which may not be practical in the current situation but which surely can be implemented with some efforts is like in Japan ensuring that every area has a school which is affordable by one and all and compelling the children in that students to study only in that particular school until there are certain genuine problems which may be considered.
	Last but not the least, I think more than focusing on seeking ways of increasing competition and quality of education the government and people need to work towards changing the attitude of a lot of people towards education, be it the teachers who teach just for the sake of it, the parents who do not think it important to educate their wards or demand too much from the educational institutions or be it students who fail to have a passion for education. Yes it's expecting way too much from our country but everything has a small beginning which can turn into a revolution... Yes it's easy to preach and very hard to practice but that does not mean we give up without trying...hoping for a better future to our education system!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before posting a comment I appreciate the systematic analysis done.<br />
According to me the fact that privatization would add to the competition and help improve the quality of primary education in India would stand true if people in India actually think of helping the nation improve by empowering the human resource available in the form of youth. However going by the economic point of view and taking into consideration the basic assumption about &#8216;The Economic Man&#8217; where it is assumed that every consumer tries to get maximum satisfaction from whatever he does or invests in, I don&#8217;t think the private sector would invest in education without looking forward to some kind of profit. This would only further worsen the situation and further widen the gap between the elite and the poor in terms of the quality of education provided. On the other hand I would not like to blame the teacher&#8217;s teaching in public schools as the conditions in which they are expected to work and help the children compete with the others who have better facilities is absolutely unfair.<br />
	Talking about the school choice- it is completely unrealistic because the choice is limited to a chosen few! A small suggestion which may not be practical in the current situation but which surely can be implemented with some efforts is like in Japan ensuring that every area has a school which is affordable by one and all and compelling the children in that students to study only in that particular school until there are certain genuine problems which may be considered.<br />
	Last but not the least, I think more than focusing on seeking ways of increasing competition and quality of education the government and people need to work towards changing the attitude of a lot of people towards education, be it the teachers who teach just for the sake of it, the parents who do not think it important to educate their wards or demand too much from the educational institutions or be it students who fail to have a passion for education. Yes it&#8217;s expecting way too much from our country but everything has a small beginning which can turn into a revolution&#8230; Yes it&#8217;s easy to preach and very hard to practice but that does not mean we give up without trying&#8230;hoping for a better future to our education system!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sharmila</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2008/04/07/education-and-the-state-seeking-balance/#comment-265614</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharmila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others have commented, nowhere in the world is education delivery primarily in for-profit private entities. In countries where vouchers are used, the system does not extend to the majority of children, but only to a small proportion and mostly for non-profit entities. In developed countries, 'choice'represents an alternative to a universal education system that may be considered stultifying (eg. charter schools in US).  But in developing countries, there is no alternative to a common school system provided by the government, especially for a large country like India. Private educationists in India would be happy to have a voucher system in place where govt would pay for students, giving these schools the opportunity to expand. As pointed out, most Indian private sector education is poor, run by mom-and-pop outfits for making profits. Teachers are underpaid and exploited, amenities are poor, and children pay for every extra benefit. These schools are elitist not only with respect to income and social background but also with respect to merit. Children with illiterate parents or with learning and other problems can be denied admission. Elitism is a high price to pay for so-called efficiency and quality of private schools. Government has the funds to provide a good common school education system for all, if given the necessary primacy. It appears the government is considering 6000 model schools in public private partnership mode.Let's hope these promote true 'education for all'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have commented, nowhere in the world is education delivery primarily in for-profit private entities. In countries where vouchers are used, the system does not extend to the majority of children, but only to a small proportion and mostly for non-profit entities. In developed countries, &#8216;choice&#8217;represents an alternative to a universal education system that may be considered stultifying (eg. charter schools in US).  But in developing countries, there is no alternative to a common school system provided by the government, especially for a large country like India. Private educationists in India would be happy to have a voucher system in place where govt would pay for students, giving these schools the opportunity to expand. As pointed out, most Indian private sector education is poor, run by mom-and-pop outfits for making profits. Teachers are underpaid and exploited, amenities are poor, and children pay for every extra benefit. These schools are elitist not only with respect to income and social background but also with respect to merit. Children with illiterate parents or with learning and other problems can be denied admission. Elitism is a high price to pay for so-called efficiency and quality of private schools. Government has the funds to provide a good common school education system for all, if given the necessary primacy. It appears the government is considering 6000 model schools in public private partnership mode.Let&#8217;s hope these promote true &#8216;education for all&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anil Kumar</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2008/04/07/education-and-the-state-seeking-balance/#comment-265400</link>
		<dc:creator>Anil Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to share some of my thoughts on the state of education in my state of U.P.
a) Primary education in rural areas of late has seen some modicum of improvement mainly because of 'mid-day-meals'. But lack of commitment and sincerety of the stake holders namely Village Panchayat &#38; Teachers (BTS grade) combined with the hapless and resigned attitudes of inarticulate parents is resulting in no qualitative improvement. At this level a strong pull faactor from parents asserting their rights for better education for their wards could only improve matters. Such a groundswell needs to be catalysed either by local opinion leaders or NGOs' otherwise there is no hope in site for the betterment of primary education in the rural set-up.

b) In urban and quasi-urban and erstaz-urban areas there has been a mushrooming of 'pre-nursery', 'nursery' and 10+2 (recognized) schools and in the long run 'market factors' will decide their survival. Most of these schools have been started by first-timers with the aim to make a fast buck and commercial considerations in most of the startups gets primacy over quality of education. High fees and add-ons take a heavy toll on the parents disposable income.

c) Professional and Graduate education has seen a revolution of sorts in UP. Overnight most of the MLAs and MPs have become educationists setting up a chain of such Institutes. Thanks to the innovative channelisation of MPLAD and MLA Constituency FUNDS, erecting massive physical infrastructure has been no problem. But time alone will tell how many of the 'public-men-educationists' would attain the status of mini-Madan Mohan Malviyas.

AKS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to share some of my thoughts on the state of education in my state of U.P.<br />
a) Primary education in rural areas of late has seen some modicum of improvement mainly because of &#8216;mid-day-meals&#8217;. But lack of commitment and sincerety of the stake holders namely Village Panchayat &amp; Teachers (BTS grade) combined with the hapless and resigned attitudes of inarticulate parents is resulting in no qualitative improvement. At this level a strong pull faactor from parents asserting their rights for better education for their wards could only improve matters. Such a groundswell needs to be catalysed either by local opinion leaders or NGOs&#8217; otherwise there is no hope in site for the betterment of primary education in the rural set-up.</p>
<p>b) In urban and quasi-urban and erstaz-urban areas there has been a mushrooming of &#8216;pre-nursery&#8217;, &#8216;nursery&#8217; and 10+2 (recognized) schools and in the long run &#8216;market factors&#8217; will decide their survival. Most of these schools have been started by first-timers with the aim to make a fast buck and commercial considerations in most of the startups gets primacy over quality of education. High fees and add-ons take a heavy toll on the parents disposable income.</p>
<p>c) Professional and Graduate education has seen a revolution of sorts in UP. Overnight most of the MLAs and MPs have become educationists setting up a chain of such Institutes. Thanks to the innovative channelisation of MPLAD and MLA Constituency FUNDS, erecting massive physical infrastructure has been no problem. But time alone will tell how many of the &#8216;public-men-educationists&#8217; would attain the status of mini-Madan Mohan Malviyas.</p>
<p>AKS</p>
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		<title>By: swap</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2008/04/07/education-and-the-state-seeking-balance/#comment-265396</link>
		<dc:creator>swap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dweep 
You are absolutely rite school infrastructure does play a big role in teacher absenteeism 
but I differ on 2 points:
Govt. Teachers (I considering the majority in rural areas) are paid pretty well compared to other villagers’ income. Also one of the study actually shows higher paid teachers (head teacher etc.) were more absent than the lower paid or contracted one.
http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/jeea.2005.3.2-3.658
(I have a little bit of personal experience also in this as I hail from one of the remotest village)
Also we can't really say we should not allow any private funding in education until govt. has done its due, if it can't meet its own targets in 40 years I think we should not wait for production of another generation of poorly educated/uneducated citizen as that in long term will harm this country only.
PS: I was wrong with banagladesh (looks like we are doing better than them :-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dweep<br />
You are absolutely rite school infrastructure does play a big role in teacher absenteeism<br />
but I differ on 2 points:<br />
Govt. Teachers (I considering the majority in rural areas) are paid pretty well compared to other villagers’ income. Also one of the study actually shows higher paid teachers (head teacher etc.) were more absent than the lower paid or contracted one.<br />
<a href="http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/jeea.2005.3.2-3.658" rel="nofollow">http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/jeea.2005.3.2-3.658</a><br />
(I have a little bit of personal experience also in this as I hail from one of the remotest village)<br />
Also we can&#8217;t really say we should not allow any private funding in education until govt. has done its due, if it can&#8217;t meet its own targets in 40 years I think we should not wait for production of another generation of poorly educated/uneducated citizen as that in long term will harm this country only.<br />
PS: I was wrong with banagladesh (looks like we are doing better than them :-))</p>
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		<title>By: Ben P</title>
		<link>http://indianeconomy.org/2008/04/07/education-and-the-state-seeking-balance/#comment-265390</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not Indian, but I do find it strange that people could possibly imagine a wide scale privatization of education would be a good way forward.

There are basically no advanced, industrial economies in the world with such a model in existence - at . That should perhaps tell you something. The China example is perhaps instructive too.

Again, I'm ignorant here as to the precise cultural arrangments of Indian society, but I imagine, as someone with some background and knowledge of the sociology of education, is that the problem is cultural and has to do with what parents expect of their children and has little to do with schools. Privatizing education would probably simply lessen the incentive for many children to go to school, especially amongst the poorest and most marginal members of society. A voucher system is somewhat better in that it will help a segment of the poor population, but a considerably larger percentage - who come from background, remember where education is not necessarily valued, will find themselves consigned to the "losing," dysfunctional schools - if in school at all - as they and their parents won't care enough to fight for their places in a high performing school. And anyway, the high performing schools can only offer a limited number of places. Public systems are not perfect, but they do at least provide the potential to offer an equitable education to every member of society, even those coming from the most unfavorable backgrounds. This is something a private system can't claim to do, because it abandons those who don't care enough about their education - which in a society like India, I imagine, would be a very large number of people. Schools are tools for social engineering if you will. In a sense, they are like the military in the role they play. Its why its one of the few institutions communist societies are effective at producing good education systems and achieving high literacy and numeracy rates.

Perhaps something you should consider is charter schools - basically the government funds education, but the schools themselves are given a lot of freedom to set curriculum/define the schools  mission. This is basically the system in Britain and Sweden (and it might be elsewhere) - parts of the United States, particularly cities have this system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not Indian, but I do find it strange that people could possibly imagine a wide scale privatization of education would be a good way forward.</p>
<p>There are basically no advanced, industrial economies in the world with such a model in existence - at . That should perhaps tell you something. The China example is perhaps instructive too.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m ignorant here as to the precise cultural arrangments of Indian society, but I imagine, as someone with some background and knowledge of the sociology of education, is that the problem is cultural and has to do with what parents expect of their children and has little to do with schools. Privatizing education would probably simply lessen the incentive for many children to go to school, especially amongst the poorest and most marginal members of society. A voucher system is somewhat better in that it will help a segment of the poor population, but a considerably larger percentage - who come from background, remember where education is not necessarily valued, will find themselves consigned to the &#8220;losing,&#8221; dysfunctional schools - if in school at all - as they and their parents won&#8217;t care enough to fight for their places in a high performing school. And anyway, the high performing schools can only offer a limited number of places. Public systems are not perfect, but they do at least provide the potential to offer an equitable education to every member of society, even those coming from the most unfavorable backgrounds. This is something a private system can&#8217;t claim to do, because it abandons those who don&#8217;t care enough about their education - which in a society like India, I imagine, would be a very large number of people. Schools are tools for social engineering if you will. In a sense, they are like the military in the role they play. Its why its one of the few institutions communist societies are effective at producing good education systems and achieving high literacy and numeracy rates.</p>
<p>Perhaps something you should consider is charter schools - basically the government funds education, but the schools themselves are given a lot of freedom to set curriculum/define the schools  mission. This is basically the system in Britain and Sweden (and it might be elsewhere) - parts of the United States, particularly cities have this system.</p>
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		<title>By: Salty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dweep,

Very well-written article on the state of primary education in India. 
The public-private differences in quality can be seen everywhere. In hospitals,
business organisations and also in primary schools. 

A few practical measures of determining quality of schools is the quality of faculty and "performance" of the school in the board exams. My impression is that the quality of faculty in majority of the primary schools, is very poor. Couple with this the bad working conditions, poor pay and reluctance of poor parents to send an earning member (student) to the school , you have a recipe for a disaster which is exactly the state of affairs. 

However, things are slightly better off in higher education where private players have entered the field of Engineering &#38; MBA and continue to supply graduates to the service sector. Yes, quality &#38; high fee is a problem over here in private colleges but students who would have had no choice 20 years earlier to study engineering if he had not got selected in IIT or RECs , atleast have a "choice" today of fulfilling his dreams. 

In the field of primary education, schools like DPS have today entered the rural heartland of Jharkhand &#38; Chattisgarh as joint ventures with some local notable benefactors and are producing better outcomes.

Finally, even after 60 years of independence, the fundamental need of the hour for majority of India still remains "roti,kaapda aur makaan" where primary education is a luxury with a large opportunity cost for many! 

Our country needs to solve these basic problems first. That will generate a demand  for primay education where private players can participate. Otherwise , if the state wants to  make primary education compulsory , it should revamp the faculty &#38; infrastructure to generate better outcomes.

Salty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dweep,</p>
<p>Very well-written article on the state of primary education in India.<br />
The public-private differences in quality can be seen everywhere. In hospitals,<br />
business organisations and also in primary schools. </p>
<p>A few practical measures of determining quality of schools is the quality of faculty and &#8220;performance&#8221; of the school in the board exams. My impression is that the quality of faculty in majority of the primary schools, is very poor. Couple with this the bad working conditions, poor pay and reluctance of poor parents to send an earning member (student) to the school , you have a recipe for a disaster which is exactly the state of affairs. </p>
<p>However, things are slightly better off in higher education where private players have entered the field of Engineering &amp; MBA and continue to supply graduates to the service sector. Yes, quality &amp; high fee is a problem over here in private colleges but students who would have had no choice 20 years earlier to study engineering if he had not got selected in IIT or RECs , atleast have a &#8220;choice&#8221; today of fulfilling his dreams. </p>
<p>In the field of primary education, schools like DPS have today entered the rural heartland of Jharkhand &amp; Chattisgarh as joint ventures with some local notable benefactors and are producing better outcomes.</p>
<p>Finally, even after 60 years of independence, the fundamental need of the hour for majority of India still remains &#8220;roti,kaapda aur makaan&#8221; where primary education is a luxury with a large opportunity cost for many! </p>
<p>Our country needs to solve these basic problems first. That will generate a demand  for primay education where private players can participate. Otherwise , if the state wants to  make primary education compulsory , it should revamp the faculty &amp; infrastructure to generate better outcomes.</p>
<p>Salty</p>
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		<title>By: Dweep</title>
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		<description>Swap - both points you raise are good. Yes, you are absolutely right that we are simply not investing enough in education. Both as a percentage of GDP, as well as public expenditure as a % of total expenditure on education, India lags behind.

However, what is the solution - to ask the govt to step away, or to ask it to do its due? I am all for private expenditure, but only after we've got our taxpayers worth. Clearly, the govt. should be spending more on education. Ironically, I believe that the debate on privatization leads us to the former approach, and an unintended consequence of that is that the govt. is actually encouraged to spend even less by passing the buck to the private sector.

Yes absenteeism is indeed a problem. But you cannot divorce that problem from its underlying causes (poor pay, no job security, and generally pathetic work conditions). Indeed, turning to an all private system that professionalizes the teaching tradition, has the further unintended consequence of making money the sole motivation (rather than job satisfaction). This last is affecting our higher education system, by focusing teachers' attention away from teaching towards lucrative industry-focused research.
This is discussed in an upcoming UNESCO volume (I'm happy to provide the reference if you like).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swap - both points you raise are good. Yes, you are absolutely right that we are simply not investing enough in education. Both as a percentage of GDP, as well as public expenditure as a % of total expenditure on education, India lags behind.</p>
<p>However, what is the solution - to ask the govt to step away, or to ask it to do its due? I am all for private expenditure, but only after we&#8217;ve got our taxpayers worth. Clearly, the govt. should be spending more on education. Ironically, I believe that the debate on privatization leads us to the former approach, and an unintended consequence of that is that the govt. is actually encouraged to spend even less by passing the buck to the private sector.</p>
<p>Yes absenteeism is indeed a problem. But you cannot divorce that problem from its underlying causes (poor pay, no job security, and generally pathetic work conditions). Indeed, turning to an all private system that professionalizes the teaching tradition, has the further unintended consequence of making money the sole motivation (rather than job satisfaction). This last is affecting our higher education system, by focusing teachers&#8217; attention away from teaching towards lucrative industry-focused research.<br />
This is discussed in an upcoming UNESCO volume (I&#8217;m happy to provide the reference if you like).</p>
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